Open Collective budget / finding new contributors / strategy

the two things I’ve been thinking about tapping the open collective budget for:

  1. Penetration testing using hacker one or similar service.

  2. Maybe some marketing on twitter. It’s pretty cheap and our twitter handle only has 200 followers. I’d want to see more activity on it (thanks Tom-Fox1 for getting started on this already!).

I don’t really think that with just 10k we’d really be able to make much of a difference in terms of incentivizing contributions.

Personally, I think that rationalizing all of the documentation, discussions like this and then developing and posting a reasonable roadmap would go further to elicit contributions…

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Hello guys,

I’m a rep from one of the companies mentioned above. (pls see my profile for more info). I joined this discussion because I liked the energy and the passion you guys are sharing about the Parse and the community. @flovilmart will miss to all of us, but I’m positive that he left the Parse platform is in good hands as well.

For us always was a great pleasure to share ideas and to help @flovilmart with everything we can. We are still all ears, so if we can help you with something please let us know.

Regarding future developments and strategy, I think that a good roadmap will be a great start because it will be much easier to involve more contributors and more sponsors.

Keeping the Parse hosting providers close to the community for me is a crucial task because they have a lot of feedback and requirements coming directly from the customers and developers building thousands of apps :slight_smile: but, of course, this is my opinion … the decision is entirely yours.

Thanks again for the passion and energy and I’m looking forward to the awesome contributions you’re about to make :slight_smile:

p.s. You can always chat with me in https://parse-opensource.sapp.io/ slack community. Please ask @flovilmart for admin access in this slack as well.

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I think that running some twitter ads would be a good idea.

It seems there is plenty of agreement over having a roadmap - perhaps we should open a new thread so we can discuss this further e.g. who wants to take the lead on it? where should it be displayed/hosted? how should it be organised? etc

Thanks for joining the discussion!

I agree that keeping close communication between the community and hosting providers is mutually beneficial - in my opinion it would be great to hear the feedback coming from your customers.

In terms of specific areas where we could do with help - the iOS SDK has seen better days and is still lacking a committed maintainer - I think that it would be great if we have a comprehensive Swift iOS SDK.

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Twitter ads are super expensive and will be useless for awareness (you will spend the money super fast and will not have a good effect). The approach should be entirely different.

In my opinion investing in good articles, tutorials, howtos, boilerplates, SDKs and etc will generate more value, as well as organising meetups, participating events and giving talks.

If you create some of the things mentioned above that relieve a big pain of the developers I think it could become viral in lots of networks, because will solve a real problem and then could be boosted with some money for ads as well :slight_smile:

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A Hangouts where all of this can be discussed will be a good start :slight_smile:

Have you already thought about the future of parse? maybe this can give you some ideas.

For example, I have seen other technologies (Strapi, Hasura) and I think we can improve the dashboard to make it more usable and friendly for new users. The plugin system can be a excellent integration to parse-dashboard

Strapi plugins:

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In terms of SDK support, it sounds like there is a problem with managing to keep the SDKs updated. The majority of the focus is on the core server and the JS SDK. Having lots of SDKs to maintain can create a problem as it’s hard keeping them in sync with a) themselves, but b) the server core.

I’m not sure if it’s changed recently, but there was also a problem in a differing interface.

Would it make sense to push hard on getting the graphQL changes into the core, as this could eliminate the need for the SDKs as you could use an off the shelf client?

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I started to do roadmaps a while ago but there weren’t any takers. Maybe we should change the way we approach them. I can think of a dozen more features we could implement.



I had the idea of giving some of these away.

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Discussion on the creation of a road map has now been split into a separate topic.

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How much does the parse group pay for hosting? Are there any overheads, if so, probably best if the money was set aside to assist in this area. I noticed a mention that this forum costs some cash, is it recurring?

Swag is always good - Love the T-Shirt, When you contribute to Gitlab, they send you a link to a shop, meaning that they don’t give stuff away for free, but you can buy special contributors only merch.

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These are the only costs that @flovilmart has submitted to the open collective but I’m not aware if there are or aren’t any other expenses. Any ideas @acinader?

@awgeorge & @TomWFox you can see both the contributions and the expenses here:

https://opencollective.com/parse-server#about

We have what we need to cover the expenses as they exist, but what could we do with the balance?

To provide an update on this, so far I’ve tried doing some Twitter and now Google Ads. It’s difficult to see how effective they are without a clear measure of conversion - it would be awesome to see a clicks to contributors rate :sweat_smile:

I have seen quite a large increase in clicks through to this forum since starting the Google Ads.

At some point I’d like to get some stickers printed, with the idea that people could ask for some to take and share at conferences etc…

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All the Youtubers seem to use https://teespring.com/en-GB/shop - basically, upload the artwork, people purchase the item, parse gets the profit it set in the product setup. No harm in taking no profit if you want some knarly merch at good prices (probably).

Have you guys seen this: https://github.com/sponsors ?

The Ruby on Rails org has a similar weekly newsletter. It’s short and easy to read. Definitely keeps me updated and aware of activity.

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yes, and I have applied. No word back from github yet.

For those interested @acinader has proposed a paid contributors program as a way to utilise the Open Collective budget. Everyone is welcome to vote on the proposal and express their opinions here.

I’m still interested in doing a newsletter, I think monthly might work better in our case. I think it could act as a nice way to summarise releases, big changes, security alerts and maybe highlight issues with help wanted.

On the other hand I don’t want to create too many channels, at the moment we have Twitter, the blog, this forum (although we don’t use it for announcements), GitHub. Do you think having a newsletter as well would be overkill?